Interview with Albanian Third Position

Tim Turtle interviews the Albanian Third Position, a Fascist group based in Albania, regarding their views, goals, and plans for the future and what they’d like Americans in the movement to know. Images in this article are provided by Albanian Third Position. The views expressed by the Albanian Third Position in their answers are not all the views of The American Futurist or Tim Turtle on things such as but not limited to things such as their views regarding Kosovo and their Anti-Abrahamic Stance on Religion. With regards to Kosovo, we are neutral since to ourselves, Kosovo doesn’t concern us personally as we have no dogs in the fight ourselves as we are not Albanian nor Serbian, so we don’t necessarily have an opinion regarding to whom Kosovo belongs. We wish to publish this interview however, as it offers an interesting perspective to our mostly American readership on things including Kosovo among their other views on things.

What bests describes the goals for Albanian Third Position?

To describes the goals of the Albanian Third Position (ATP) one must first understand what we are. We are a spiritual league of Albanian idealists gathered around values belonging to the Tradition to preserve the Albanian Spirit. Indeed, the Albanian Spirit is an expression of the European Tradition incarnated throughout our history in Albania’s Indo-Europeans forefathers, in Dardano-Illyric-Epirotes kings and warriors alike, in Albanian medieval lords, in Skanderbeg, in our Malësor (Highlanders), etc, and until very recently. Even though it was mainly incarnated in the past, the Albanian Spirit is far from being dead because it is an Idea (in the platonic sense) which translates into a worldview in those able to (re)connect with it. This worldview is at the basis of the ATP, and each one of our members is destined to be a “cultural shock trooper” holding, incarnating, and spreading a spiritually pagan, hierarchic, heroic and aristocratic worldview – or in other words an anti-anthropocentric, anti-egalitarian, anti-liberal and antidemocratic worldview.

Therefore, the ATP’s aim is to make the Albanians holding this worldview in a confuse but intuitive way fully and clearly aware of it. It is the ATP’s mission to gather and form those holding this worldview into a physical, intellectual, and spiritual elite able and worthy of incarnating it. This worldview can be more present in common men than in intellectuals, nevertheless those holding and embodying it are aristocrats akin to those individuals who did incarnate it previously in our History. Ideally, the ATP would maximize the chances for the apparition of these kind of individuals, of these spiritual aristocrats that Nietzsche called “Ubermensch”.

So, because the ATP’s core revolves around Tradition our main goals are to protect the Albanian Spirit, to spread its worldview, to incarnate this worldview and defend the identity it incarnates in, to help form an elite worthy of this worldview and amplify the apparition these kind of aristocrats in the true sense of the word. Of course, these goals are revolutionary for the actual petty Albanian nationalism unable to face any of the challenges of the 21st century.

Majority of our readers are from the United States and elsewhere tend to have the perception that Albanians are not White and are basically Turks, though we know this is largely a misconception due to the high Muslim population (that being 53% of Albanians being Muslim) within Albania. What is your opinion regarding this?

This point of view is very regrettable, not only because in most cases it is the result of lack of knowledge or of anti-Albanian propaganda, but also because it wrongly equates Abrahamic religions with races and this mistake ends up confusing Albania’s case beyond reason. Perceiving Christians, European or not, as Semites because they pray to a dead Semite would be equally as unfair as regarding 53% of Albanians as Turks because of their religion. So, it is important to distinguish here religion and race. Islam and Christianity are not races but universalist religions in which believers accept one another as brothers regardless of race, and to which anybody can convert whatever their race is. And this is just the logical result of their anti-racist or race denying core. Thus, it is impossible to equal these religions with one specific race.

Moreover, another dimension of this misconception has to do with an ingrained (and most of the time) inconsistent political correctness in those spreading it. Indeed, American or European Muslims and Muslims in Europe or America are two different things: the firsts are autochthonous Americans or Europeans living in American or Europe, the seconds are migrants from other continents united by Islam and replacing demographically autochthonous Americans or Europeans in their own lands. But since 1945 to avoid pointing to the race of the growing number of non-Europeans submerging American and European nations, people prefer instead to focus on Islam. This is not a smart move because even though most are Muslims, and even if the racial taboo is left untouched, in the end this strategy is ineffective toward non-Muslim non-Europeans which likewise submerge American and European nations. This strategy is at the same time too deferent toward political correctness, the grammar of self-hatred that should be vanquished instead of being used and thus expending its lifespan.

An effective way to answer to this question is to look at science. Studies in genetic anthropology conducted on Albanians have shown that: 1) Albanians share the same ancestry as all European peoples and the same genetics as the indigenous settlers of the Balkan Peninsula, thus making Albanians no different from other European or Balkan nations; 2) Analysis of autosomal DNA highlights that Albanians descend from a genetically cohesive population that has barely intermingled with other peoples for at least 1,500 years (however autosomal DNA also reveals that Greeks and Macedonians share common ancestors mostly with Albanians). Genetic studies are therefore enough to conclude once and for all that Albanians are indeed Europeans and nothing else.

As for Islam and Albania, just like in the other European nations the religion of 53% of Albanians was only an Abrahamic veneer put on local Indo-European pagan traditions (as easily visible in our worldview, folk beliefs, legends, lifestyle, etc). Even after 500 years of Turkish domination, Islam never defined Albanian identity, quite the contrary: the Albanian national drink is an alcohol (raki), mosques were small empty crumbling buildings dating from the Ottoman era, marriages between Christian and Muslim Albanians are not rare, halal food was never a thing and pork is available and consumed, the fathers of 19th century Albanian nationalist renewal (Rilindja) were mostly anti Abrahamic, and Albania was the first State to declare itself atheist without this sparking any Islamic or Christian revolt. This state of things was witnessed by various travellers like for example the English author Edith Durham in 1903: “A good Mohammedan should turn Mecca-wards and pray five times a day. I have spent day after day with [Albanian] Moslem gendarmes and horse-boys, and never seen an attempt at a prayer. But, on the other hand, once, when passing some soldiers of an Anatolian regiment who were devoutly praying by the wayside, my [Albanian] mounted escort pointed them out to me and laughed as though it were the best of jokes.” This was the Albanian attitude and still mostly is.

However, in recent years Islam turned out to be a Trojan horse for foreign influences wishing to destabilize and erase our identity and spirit, just like Christianity became a Trojan horse of Globalism inside Western nations. If 53% Albanians are still Muslims it is mainly because filthy rich Arab States and Erdogan finance them to further their interests, just like Soros finances liberal associations in the West to further his own. In 5 years span we saw the building of new big mosques, the promotion of Islamic schools, money given to individuals in exchange for the growing of an Islamic beard, Islamic “charities” spreading Islamic culture and customs at odds with the traditional Albanian ones (like replacing Albanian words by Arabic ones, Albanian costumes by Arabic clothes…) etc. Moreover, this Arabic influence is also felt in Western countries where non-European Muslims pressure Albanians which happen to be Muslims to adopt non-European Islamic ways (this happens in cities like Brussels, London, Stuttgart, Paris, etc), but most of these Albanians fight back. This is a real matter of concern, and it is one of the issues the ATP is addressing.

To conclude on this question, Albanians are Europeans and like all Europeans they share the same genetic ancestry as the other European peoples, like all Europeans they use an Indo-European language, like all Europeans they have a pagan worldview beneath the monotheistic veneer imposed on them, like all Europeans they officially belong to an Abrahamic religion, and unfortunately like all Europeans now they face submersion by non-Europeans.

What is your view regarding the Kosovo question? Does Kosovo belong to Albania?

Our view regarding Kosovo is the same one that has been hold by every Albanian worthy of the name since 1912 when the case could have been closed forever by including this territory in the newly formed Albania as the people of Kosovo were asking. Our answer will not please Serbs which elevated Kosovo on a pedestal because their cherry-picking of History turn it into a matter of pride for their petty nationalism, nor will it please “Kosovars” that daydream about their independence and wish to have nothing to do with Albania. By the way, the ATP refers to Kosovo under its Albanian name: Dardania. For us, Albania and Dardania cannot be two separated entities but one and the same because Dardania belongs to Albania, not only because 92% of its inhabitants are Albanians (with only 1.5% Serbs) rejecting Serbian rule, but also because ethnology and History are not in Serbia’s side. As for the previous question, we must uncover the truth beneath the various layers of propaganda.

Dardania’s history has roots older than the 250 years of medieval Serbian rule, and the Albanian name of Dardania refers to this past. Dardania was an area in Antiquity encompassing what is now the Republic of Kosovo and an ancient kingdom that submitted ancient States from Albania all the way to northern Greece and Northern Macedonia. What is interesting is that scholars all agree to admit that the name of this kingdom is Proto-Albanian, making thus Dardania not only the cradle of our language but also of the people originally speaking it. And by a twist of fate Dardania will also be the cradle of Albanian nationalism in the 19th century (with the creation of the League of Prizren). By the way, in the Iliad, Dardanus is mentioned as son of Zeus and founder of the future city of Troy, ancestor of the Trojan dynasty and of Rome’s founder. Scholars are still debating about his identity but this Dardanus could be a mythical ancestor associated somehow to Dardania. Thus, our very identity is connected to Dardania and has thus deep roots stretching to the cornerstones of European identity, while Serbian revendications and tales about a land of monasteries and the place where a famous battle occurred tend to occult this very important yet unknown corner of European identity.

Serbs focus on Medieval “Kosovo” and referred to it as “the cradle of the Serbs” as if it had been a Serbian heartland from the beginning, while in reality their center of settlement was further north-west. Both Bulgarians and Byzantines occupied and impacted Dardania longer than Serbia, but for example modern Bulgaria has no claim on it. As for the Albanian pre-Turkish and Pre-Serbian presence, it is attested through place names, including churches and monasteries with Albanian names (like for example “Sveti Arbanas” meaning “Saint Albanian”), all the way from modern day Republic of Kosovo to the Serbian city of Nish (which entered the Slavic languages via Proto-Albanian according to scholars, meaning that a majority of Albanian speakers were present there when Serbs’ ancestors migrated in the area around the 6th century), and all are recorded in Slavic and Ottoman registries from the 13th-15th centuries. Serbs founded monasteries in Dardania because monasteries are always built in isolated places far from the society the monks came from: so, Dardania was the perfect place for them to do so and live isolated among the Albanians’ ancestors (which very well could have been orthodox at that time since some Serbian churches are built on top of old 6th century pre-Slavic churches like in Graqanica).

As for the famous battle of Kosovo in 1389, Serbia’s petty nationalism monopolized it by presenting Serbs as the only people facing the Turks there, but in fact Serbs were fighting alongside all the other Balkan nations including Albanians. Hence why the battle of Kosovo survived in Albanian epics as well as in Serbian ones. Sadly, a piece of common history uniting the Balkans against a common non-European invader was turned by Serbian legend into an event in which their leader, before the dilemma presented by an angel prior to the battle, chose victory in Heaven rather than over the Turks. We see here how Abrahamic religions can push a leader to condemn his people to 400 years of harsh Turkish rule to further his self-interest (“save his soul”). Nevertheless, Serbia’s role after the battle is often left in the shadows: Serbia became the Turks’ most faithful ally. For example, they sided with the Turks against the Christian crusaders at Nicopolis in 1396, the Serbian leader George Branković wed his daughter to the Sultan, and when years latter there was a second great battle of Kosovo (way more important than the first one because the Hungarians were close to success but needed reinforcements) the same George Branković prevented the Albanian army led by Skanderbeg from joining with the Hungarians, thus ensuring a Turkish victory at a battle that could have changed history forever.

To justify the lack of ongoing Serbian presence in their “cradle” from medieval times up to present day, Serbs try to picture Albanians as performing a kind of Great Replacement on them (despite their official “Colonization of Kosovo/Kolonizacija Kosova” state program in the early 20th century, aimed at reducing the Albanian presence and implementing Serbs instead). But Serbs do not even agree on when the Albanians are supposed to have “migrated” and “replaced” them: some say between 1945 and 1989, some say between WW1 and WW2, and some during Ottoman domination. But between 1945 and 1989 Albania was Europe’s North Korea: nobody could get in and nobody could get out; between the world wars is also a silly answer because when Albania proclaimed its independence in 1912 it asked for the inclusion of Dardania into Albania but this was rejected by the Great Powers (a territorial injustice Italy and Germany during WW2 would end by reuniting Dardania to Albania); and as we have seen with the Albanian places names predating the coming of the Slavs, Albanian were already established in Dardania before the Slavic migrations in the Balkans. So, contrary to Serbian expectations in which Albanians popped from thin air, Albanians were in Dardania before both Turks and Serbs. This reality is reflected in today’s demographic (at best, historically Serbs never made more than 25% of Dardania’s inhabitants), and since demography is destiny Dardania was destined to liberate from Serbian rule sooner or later. Besides, in the region of Vojvodina Serbs managed to achieve a Great Replacement of the Hungarian majority and it is perhaps their guilt and failure to do so in Dardania that explains why they accuse Albanians of doing what they themselves did to Hungarians.

So, to conclude on this question, for whoever investigates it with honesty the Albanian presence in Dardania since Antiquity makes no doubt. Once this objective truth is established as a fact it explains why and how Albanians are today a majority (92%). Albanian revendication on Dardania are thus based on a blood and soil symbiosis whereas Serbian ones are based on Abrahamic concepts separated from material and historical reality, and so their “Kosovo” is another Jerusalem: a “holy” place located outside one’s country. The ATP understands that Albanians of Dardania feel better in an “independent” State rather than as a part of Serbia, but we regard the notion of a separated Republic of Kosovo as something dangerous for the Albanian identity. Dardania should not be independent or a part of Serbia but reunited with Albania. But beyond this specific case, the ATP promotes the idea of a wide redrawing of European borders based both on History and on demographic reality. Indeed, the current borders are the mischief of the 1919 Versailles treaty and have been the seed for unending deadly conflicts that have brought Europe to its knees and helped non-European powers to dominate our continent. Repeating them by for example giving Dardania to Serbia would only breed further resentment and create a new weak point in Europe for non-European powers to exploit. This should be avoided for the greater good of all Europeans, and the only solution is to clear Europe of all the weak points that resulted from the treaty of Versailles and that endure up to this day.

What is the religious makeup of your members?

Because Albania is divided between various Abrahamic religions people are curious to know how this reflects on the ATP. All the members of the ATP are pagans, and only pagans can be members of the ATP. Indeed, for us it is impossible to defend the Albanian identity and at the same time honour the king of the Jews or the leader of Arabian tribes. Therefore, because we despise the mainstream political attitude of eluding important questions to not offend people that might be potential voters, and because we know that no traditional order can emerge without a proper spiritual dimension, the ATP asks and settles the religious question first, regardless of the people’s attitude and reception to it, by promoting Albanian Paganism as its metaphysical system and worldview. Albanian Paganism, or Illyriscism as we call it, is not only what the members of the ATP profess metaphysically but also what any Albanian worth of the name professes consciously or not.

Indeed, Paganism is the only metaphysical system compatible with the defence of our identity because Paganism, being the religious expression of a given people, race, or nation, is the sacred dimension of our identity. So, unlike universalist Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Islam, Paganism corresponds to one race only (indeed, European Paganism differs from Semitic or Pre-Colombian Paganisms for example), and no one can “convert” to it because one belongs to it by birth. By renewing with it we do great honour to our forefathers, regardless if they were officially Muslims or Christians: in fact, their attitudes, their customs, and cultural practices betrayed their paganism and their pagan worldview. They consciously or not hold it until recently, and many still do today. For example, our most popular festivity is a pagan one called Dita e veres (Spring day), travellers in the 1930s reported cult-usages pointing to a Zeus worship on Mount Tomorr (a sacred mountain serving as the Albanian mount Olympus) still performed today, our Kanun (our sacred code of laws of pagan origins) is respected more than both Bible and Kuran, people continue to pledge oath by the Sun or the fire above anything else, etc.

Illyriscism, the religion of the ancient region of Illyris were Albanian Paganism was practiced, we promote is based on our specific cultural traditions, on our ethnic identity and on historical research: it only needs further clarification to become fully conscious among our people. It can be described as a polytheistic monism (material and spiritual realms are one reality and reflections of one another) looking to achieve and maintain what Romans called Pax Deorum (peaceful relations with the Divine), promoting virtue and heroism for the community and the individuals and a respect of Tradition and harmony with the sacred natural and Cosmic order. All this is compatible with the Albanian code of honour as expressed in the Kanun, with the Albanian stress on individual heroism, with the family-centric attitude of Albanians and with their respect for their elders, etc.

We invite the readers wishing to know more about Albanian Paganism to check our “school of pagan thought” named Pagan Shqiptar (Albanian Pagan in English): an offspring of the ATP promoting the pagan worldview and philosophy among Albanians living abroad or not. Pagan Shqiptar explores Albanian Paganism and its connections with Indo-European spirituality, European Paganism, their spiritual side and metaphysic nature from the perspective of Albanian pagans. Moreover, it also offers critical and historical studies on the essence of Abrahamic religions and on their incompatibility with Albanian identity.

Indeed, for us the various religions present in Albania cannot be reconciled with the defence and love of our identity. Instead of missing the point by celebrating Albanian religious tolerance, our attitude highlights the existence of a conflict between Abrahamic religions and nationalism (be it Albanian or European). Islam ties our country to an alien lot with whom Albanians share nothing: no common language, no common history, no common geography, no common culture, etc. As explained earlier, day after day Islam is aggressively trying to dissolve our identity and spirit, it is a mortal threat that should be dealt with. And conversion to Christianity would be equally problematic because, apart from the deep spiritual crisis striking the Christian European countries, as Shaul of Tarsus aka “St Paul” said differences between Albanians and other nations would be erased: this is equalitarian madness, rootlessness and pure spiritual Globalism. So, our identity would not be safer with Christianity than with Islam.

Christianity and Islam are today a threat to the Albanian and European Spirit because both are of foreign non-European origin, both hold equalitarian views, both deny national identities leading thus to spiritual Globalism, both promote values at odds with the Albanian and European Spirit, both regard European and Albanian land, history and traditions as worthless and praise instead foreign lands as holy places and foreign history and traditions as holy, both have brought division among Albanians and Europeans, etc. The problems with Christianity and Islam continue when one focuses on their doctrines which are anti-traditional in their essence and counter-initiatory in their tenets. The reality is that all these nefarious effects are no accidents, but essential features rooted in the Abrahamic identity of the religions dominating Albania and Europe.

To sum up, only Paganism can be regarded as a fitting religious tradition in harmony with the Albanian Spirit and as a way to reconnect with our European identity. Indeed, it values our specific identity as a local expression of a wider Indo-European one which also encompasses the religious dimension. So, Paganism values Albanian land and spirit as sacred, it values Albania’s ancestors and heroes as worthy of honour, it values hierarchy and respects the existing differences in the sacred natural and Cosmic order, etc. Albanian Paganism/Illyriscism is reflected in every aspect of our identity: our flag has pagan roots, Skanderbeg’s helmet (a national symbol in itself) and legend are filled with pagan elements, and as noticed by various scholars the traditional Albanian worldview is almost identical to the worldview displayed by the pagan characters from the Iliad and Odyssey (the pillars of Greek mythology). Thus, Illyriscism and the Albanian identity are one and the same, and this is the faith professed by any member of the ATP.

Are you as a group opposed to things like providing social services and alike to Albanians in need for revolutionary goals or do you think it is a waste of time?

As traditionalist we do not believe in modern democracy nor in mass movements, so providing social services to reach revolutionary goals is something devoid of any interest for us. The main problem being that democracy, because it is a corruptive atmosphere above all, will corrupt even social services offered to Albanians, not to mention that the materialist mentality is so spread and ingrained that once you are not able to provide social services anymore the people turn away from you. This is what happened to the Golden Dawn party in Greece: the people disinterested from it once it had nothing to offer and that other parties offered more.

So, mass movements are something of the past and one should distance himself from the Abrahamic mirage of “saving” everybody. People as a mass has no dignity, and as it shouted yesterday “Long live the king!”, “Long live the Duce!”, “Long live the Communist party!”, “Long live Democracy!”, the people as a mass will likewise shout tomorrow “Long live Globalism!” or “Long live Islamic Eurafrica!”: once again, people as a mass has no dignity and is only able to offer himself to whoever seems to respond to his primal needs and confuse aspirations, just like naïve young girls do. The elitism promoted by the ATP means in its core that we are not part of the people, and we call as many individuals as possible to likewise stop being part of it.

Once again, our main goal is to gather as many individuals as possible to help an elite worthy of the worldview we incarnate to finally emerge. The brave hearted and wisest individuals of our people in fact already form an intellectual and spiritual aristocracy in the true sense of the word: they are the best productions of our nation, but they are unaware of it due to the democratic atmosphere and unfortunately they waste their time. The ATP’s role is to (re)ignite in them the fire of the worldview they bear, to make them fully aware of it because a clear worldview is like a compass always showing where the north is, and so this elite will never fail to orientate itself whatever the situation. So, providing social services and alike can wait, the priority is to make our worldview clearer in those bearing it naturally, so they will diffuse it throughout society by merely incarnating it, and thus it will turn into a general state of mind. And this general state of mind is far more efficient to achieve revolutionary goals than any mass movement based on social services or whatever.

To conclude, regarding Albanians the question does not revolve around the means to fulfill revolutionary goals (traditionally Albanians have always bear weapons, and this situation was renewed with the fall of Communism, the 1997 State’s bankruptcy, criminality, and the war with Serbia) but around what the goals should be and which orientation to take to achieve them. This will not be solved by providing social services of any kind, but by forging an elite bearing and incarnating the worldview rooted in the Albanian Spirit and Tradition. By distancing itself from the people this elite will incarnate its worldview and assert its virile character, avoid the people’s inconsistencies, and be able to answer and orientate the people’s confuse aspiration resulting from the general state of mind diffused by the elite and adopted unconsciously by the mass. And so, the elite’s worldview will be correctly carried by the mass itself and will even fulfill, perhaps without the need of any direct intervention of the elite, the elite’s goals regardless of the course of events.

We noticed that the ATP Telegram has posted many pro-Ukrainian things, does this mean that ATP stands with the Azov Regiment of Ukraine?

First of all, the case of Ukraine is very important for us since we notice many similarities between the Ukrainian people and the Albanian one and between our Histories. Both Ukrainian and Albanian identities have been negated by our neighbours Russia and Serbia, both our lands are claimed to be our neighbour’s “cradle” (Kievian Rus claimed by Russia and Dardania claimed by Serbia), both Ukraine and Albania have been submitted to the imperialist rule of Russia and Turkey for centuries, both the Ukrainians and Albanians have fought back and maintain a quasi-independence by taking refuge in difficult places and organizing there as Cossacks and Malësor (Albanian for Highlanders), both Ukrainians and Albanians have been regarded as “nations without a State” and had to struggle hard to gain independence. As for the last point, Albania achieved it in the 1920s/1930s whereas Ukraine, despite almost 30 years of independence, is forging its own State right now. Of course, we can be only pro-Ukrainian as we recognize our past struggles (from our independence to the war in Dardania) in Ukraine’s current one. So, as you can see there are many reasons for us to regard Ukraine as our natural ally. Any coherent European nationalist should feel the same toward Ukraine because, beyond the similarities with the Albanian case, it is the fate of European nationalism and of the relevance of our continent in the future that is at stake right now in Ukraine.

What is even more noteworthy is that Ukrainian nationalists have become the head spear and the vanguard of European nationalism, an aristocratic model for the rest of the European movements on all aspects: from ideology, to organization, to fighting skills and spirit, etc. The best incarnation of all these aspects was the late Serhiy ZaĂŻkovskyi aka Deimos: he lived as an ideologue and died as a poet and warrior, as a Ukrainian worthy of the name. We would like to take this occasion to salute his memory once again since he was the main ideologue of the Avantguardia movement that befriended the ATP. Indeed, the ATP is honoured to have close relationship with the Avantguardia movement: after establishing contact and exchanging with us, in their doctrinal publication issued by Deimos just before the war, the Avantguardia movement positively mentioned Albanians as an inspiring example in style and for long lasting struggles. By proving themselves friends of our cause and by this friendly gesture toward our nation the Avantguardia movement did us a great honour and restored our image because most of European nationalists merely copy paste the Serbian perspective out of ignorance and propaganda… But once again, this was something to except from Ukrainians, from the aristocratic vanguard of European nationalism. This is something we will not forget and thus we are in return friends of their cause and of their nation. Thus, just prior to the war a deep friendship was formed between the Avantguardia movement and the ATP.

Furthermore, the Avantguardia movement did not usurp its name since it is fighting right now on the frontline alongside the Azov regiment and many others to defend their fatherland and their ethnic identity. As for the Azov regiment, their titanic struggle against bigger forces than themselves recall us the great deeds of the 300 Spartans (and likewise it will echo in eternity) and we regard this as the reincarnation of an aristocracy of the trenches in our day and age. It was this kind of aristocracy and its spirit that shook Europe after WW1 and that will likewise do so today. Moreover, the Azov regiment was recently taken out from the list of terrorist organizations by Japan, and this fact reminds us of case of the UÇK (Ushtria Çlirimtare e Kosoves, Kosovo’s Liberation Army or KLA in English) wrongly regarded at first as a terrorist organisation before being finally taken out of the list. The case of the Azov regiment should inspire respect in all those having a warrior soul, but even more so among all European nationalists and it should be their duty to support them and Ukraine. So, our position is crystal clear: we fulfill our duty as European nationalists by supporting the Avantguardia movement, the Azov regiment, and the Ukrainians’ struggle for their ethnic identity.

Do you like Siege by James Mason?

Siege is a revolutionary book, a true challenge to our modern era and worth the read for anyone wishing to gain maturity in the field of revolutionary activism. In its essence it states basic truths one needs to read and read again to ingrain these maxims in himself. Therefore, it is an excellent and very valuable book whose importance will shine for sure in the future, as it is the case with so many books, because its analysis remain relevant, if not more relevant today. Siege describe perhaps the only path left not only for Americans but also for other peoples in a similar situation: because what it describes can be applied wherever modernist, globalist, or liberals values reign supreme and fills any reader with a serious revolutionary spirit.

We are also drawn to Siege because its tenets for successful revolutionary activism are absolutely alien to the militant passivity of liberal and Abrahamic origin. Indeed, most of what plagues activism in general derives from unconsciously secularized notions from the Abrahamic religions: the awaiting of a Saviour/Messiah send by God himself to save us, playing by the rules because Shaul aka Paul of Tarsus said that all authority comes from God (and thus all revolt is devilish until it triumphs, which was also the view of his master rabbi Galmaliel in the Acts of the Apostles), expecting miracles instead of working hard, trying to save and redeem every single individual among our people, the curious belief of martyrs being more efficient than anything else to convert people, etc. To add to Siege, the ATP is aware that some education needs to be given first to pass down the core of our worldview: this will be the school of the elite. Hence why we produce so much articles and studies about various topics (for a vast or restricted audience alike) while translations of foreign works will follow as well, always with an Albanian perspective.

A very little known fact is that the revolutionary situation described in Siege happened in Albania in 1997, and this is why the ATP understands the utmost importance of this book: indeed, we know that this situation happened once and can repeat itself, in Albania or elsewhere. Our regret is that, because Albanian Communism repressed so much our pre-1945 traditional political culture and doctrine, individuals during the 1997 state of anarchy in Albania had no political culture nor revolutionary activist experience and they were left without any elite with a clear vision to guide the course of events, even by force, toward the clear aim of cleaning once and for all the remains of Communism in Albania that still poison our existence to this day. Instead, the mass motivated by quick personal gains (a consequence of 50 years of Communist enforced material misery) turned to banditry. This was a great revolutionary opportunity, and it was missed. But a book like Siege does provide what was lacking in Albania in 1997.

What can you tell our readers about Albania as a country and people?

Each European people is unique in its physical and spiritual identity, and with unique traditions although we all share a common Indo-European identity. But among all European peoples, Albanians are the least known because Communist isolation cut any possibility for our people to have friendly relations with virtually any European nation. Hence why it is difficult to answer this question quickly. But we noticed by finally putting Albania on the map of European nationalism, thus achieving something never done before by any Albanian nationalist groups (which always restricted themselves to petty nationalism) that European peoples are very curious about Albanians in general. After years of anti-Albanian propaganda this is a genuine good surprise for us, and it encourages us to continue to repair this injustice by contributing to offer non-Albanian readers Albanian perspectives on many topics and thus helping them to know more about our country and people.

What we can tell you quickly is that Albania and Albanian history are filled with inspiring examples for an aristocratic lifestyle and for European nationalism in general. Two examples will be enough: Skanderbeg and our Malësor (Highlanders) are the best embodiments of Albania, the best defenders of our country and nation and can be as inspiring for European as they are for us. Moreover, the Kanun (the Albanian code of honour/constitution/judicial laws) has preserved the Albanian tradition and worldview in such a way that until 1945 Albania was the only European State in which a tradition with Pre-Christian roots was still living. Hence why we are confident in renewing a contact with this reality to get rid of the modern world once and for all. Therefore, although overall friendly our people loved and kept a proud martial spirit as well as an independent attitude (almost turning into arrogance, especially toward our neighbours, as expressed by Isa Boletini, the patriot from Dardania : “The Turk is cruel, but he is perfectly stupid, and is no match for the sagacious Albanian”), and these can be assets if properly used .

On the other hand, we know that the human material is very important, and unfortunately Communism did a lot of harm not only materially but also spiritually to the Albanians. We have to admit that since 1992 few Albanians lived up to the excellent reputation they had before 1945, as anyone can tell by reading authors like Edith Durham or Ronald Matthews, because they have been so degraded beyond what is imaginable by Communism. Nevertheless, Albanians worthy of the name still exist, but they are scattered and the ATP wishes to gather them as only they could form the aristocratic elite our nation desperately needs after all these centuries of Ottoman obscurity and all these years of Communist madness.

In our various articles and productions, we highlight many more facts about Albania and Albanians for a wide non-Albanian audience, and so beside what we mentioned here we advise your readers if they are curious to check them and learn more about Albania and Albanians by doing so. They can also contact us to show their support or ask us questions about Albania and Albanians directly.

Why should White Americans support you over let’s say Serbia, due to the fact that, as I’m sure you’re aware, most Americans within the movement tend to support Serbia generally regarding the Kosovo question, mostly due to the successes in messaging by Serbian Nationalists within the American Movement in propagating their messaging that Kosovo is Serbian land. We’d like to know the opposite perspective on this issue, as stated most Americans in the movement have strictly only heard the Serbian Nationalist perspective on Kosovo and not the Albanian one, all so we can get a balanced perspective on this issue.

One of the ATP’s aims is to provide our side of the story to a wider non-Albanian audience, to help most of Europeans and Americans to have a balanced perspective as you said by pleading our cause as it rightly deserves to, and to highlight how the Albanian cause is a valuable inspiration for all Europeans and Americans wishing to successfully face the coming challenges of the 21th century. Instead of going deep into Albanian and Serbian history (which refutes their internet cliché of “Kebab removers” unable to remove any Muslim from their region of Novi Pazar, by the way), we will focus on the question of the war in Dardania in the late 1990s as a good way to illustrate this.

Above all, we regret the lack of balanced perspective on this issue. Indeed, most Americans and Europeans tend to merely copy paste the Serbian perspective, and thus are quickly lost in a spiral of unending petty Balkan rivalries. But on the other hand we understand this situation as being the result of almost 50 years of forced Communist isolation (making thus Albania Europe’s North Korea), hence why it is no surprise that the Albanian cause remained virtually unknown for so long among other European nations and that few Americans or Europeans have a balanced perspective on this issue. Meanwhile, Serbian propaganda was quite successful not only in the last 30 years but also during the Yugoslavian era in which Serbs had the upper hand. To make matters worse, since the Albanian Communist Party was an offspring of the Yugoslavian one it left Dardania in Yugoslavian hands without problem (while Dardania and Albania had been united during WW2), thus creating the false impression of a final agreement on this matter reached thanks to the “enlightenment” of Communism… As you can see, we have a lot of work to do, but we are confident: far from imposing our side of the story we merely expose it, for the truth always triumph in the end. It just needs some help sometimes.

So, firstly Americans and Europeans should logically support the Albanian cause since we opposed Globalism under the local Communist form, and this is something to be emulated. Indeed, it has always baffled us that right wing Americans or Europeans sided with Croatia against Yugoslavia in the early 1990s, because Croatia represented Nationalism while Yugoslavia represented Communism (and this was the case), but some years latter during the war in Dardania they sided with Serbs for some reason while it was the same Yugoslavian Communist clique in charge and with the same Communist vision. Hence why we refer to this late entity as “Yugoserbia”: Yugoslavian communism rebranded as Serbian nationalism. It is an old Communist trick to resort to patriotic imagery when threaten with death (as this is more effective than multi-ethnic socialist utopian imagery, as Stalin understood during WW2 or “the great patriotic war” as it is known in Russia today), and this is what the Serbian communist leaders in charge did by presenting the conflict in Dardania as a conflict between civilizations instead of a conflict between Yugoserbian ideals and Albanian nationalism. It is a shame that so many Americans and Europeans fall for it. So, Americans and Europeans should at least distance themselves from Serbian nationalists to avoid embracing a multi-ethnic Communist utopia known as Yugoslavia (or at least, to avoid becoming the tools of this Communist cause like Serbian nationalist are, willingly or not).

Secondly, Americans and Europeans should also support the Albanian cause because our nationalism is less incoherent than the Serbian one on this matter. Indeed, to face with their cognitive dissonance Serbian nationalists present themselves as Europe’s defenders and accused the Kosovo’s Liberation Army (KLA) of everything except a nationalist movement. But, in their willingness to deny any expression of Albanian identity (just as they did with the other ethnic identities of Yugoslavia), Serbs once again do not agree with themselves: they depicted the KLA as an Islamic organization, a Marxist one, a Nazi one, etc. Funnily enough, some Serbs deduce the KLA’s Marxist affiliation because of the yellow colour combined with the Albanian flag used as the KLA’s logo: with this logic we suppose the Albanian monarchy was Marxist too since it used the yellow colour on the Albanian flag… In fact, the KLA was one of the purest expressions of Albanian nationalism: its main ideologue, commandant Jakup Krasniqi, stated that: “The KLA recognises Albanianism [Albanian identity] as it only ideology” (so, not the Kuran nor some Marxist work). In a similar fashion, he stated in front of Globalists and Liberals last year at the Hague’s International Court of Justice: “In your act of accusation you try to divide Albanians between Muslims and Christians. For me this is offending. I am no Muslim nor Christian, but Albanian”. Moreover, the KLA refused Middle Eastern volunteers among its ranks while accepting instead other European ethnicities like Croats, Italians, etc, whereas Serbs notoriously allied with Gypsies to confront Albanians. And last but not least, 377 catholic Albanian civilians from Dardania were butchered in 1999 by Yugoslav forces (Meja Massacre): this little known fact in the West creates some malaise among Serbian nationalists because it proves that this war was not a religious but a nationalist one, and that Serbs’ pretention of defending Christian Europe is usurped (not to mention the collaboration of the Islamic clergy with Yugoserbian forces). Although it is true that the KLA stormed Serbian churches, this was done because another Communist war trick consist in storing weapons and ammunitions in churches (Communists did this throughout Europe in WW2, especially in France as illustrated by the Oradour sur Glane village). So, it is better for Americans and Europeans to side with the Albanian cause defending an identity rooted in blood and soil rather than stick with the fishy Serbian attitude, denying any other ethnic identity than itself and wrongly presented as the shield of Christian Europe.

15/06/1998 : Kosovo’s Liberation Army only recognises Albanianism [Albanian identity] as its only ideology.
-Jakup Krasniqi , Commander of UÇK

And lastly, Americans and Europeans should support the Albanian cause as it is a better and more inspiring example for them than the Serbian one. Indeed, even before the war, Dardania was virtually independent from Belgrade during the 1990s because a parallel society was set up there. Three big steps known as the Great Gathering were taken in the 1980s: a large reconciliation between all members of society; a sacred union around the Albanian flag to defend the land of Dardania and Albanian identity; and the end of all vendettas between Albanians. So, by the end of the 1980s Dardania had cut all its ties with the central Yugoslavian State: Albanians stopped paying taxes to a central State denying their ethnic identity and crushing them harder every day, they organised their own administration, hospitals, school system, police forces, etc. Thus, Dardania had already won the war by the end of the 1980s, and what happened in the late 1990s was a desperate move by Yugoserbia to regain control of Dardania since it failed to do so by implementing Serbian colonists there. The parallels with the American and European situations are striking : Albanians defeated in Dardania a central State wishing to replace them on large scale with non-Albanian colonists, allied with whatever minority possible, by gathering around nationalist values to defend at all costs their own ethnic identity. This achievement should be studied by all Americans and Europeans as an inspiration to successfully face their ongoing Great Replacement and the hostile policies implemented against them by their own States.

To conclude, for us Americans and Europeans would be much more wiser if they would side with the Albanian cause to learn how we faced and defeated the State programmed Great Replacement of our people by Serbian colonists, how we succeeded in liberating ourselves first spiritually and peacefully, and then how we were ready to defend our identity weapons in hands when needed. Moreover, siding with the Albanian cause provides for Americans and Europeans a positive example to follow, a positive myth so to speak filled with KLA’s heroic deeds and with the victorious struggle of an identity rooted in blood and soil and traditional European values. Indeed, the Albanian example proves that victory can be achieved and this is spiritually more valuable for the American and European mind than the Serbian version according to which you have been replaced in your very own national “cradle” by “non-Europeans newcomers” before it breaking away politically from your nation. What an intoxicating myth to associate with! It only breeds pity, resentment, a sense of victimhood, pain, and defeat. With this intoxicating example implemented by Serbian nationalists online in the American and European minds no success will ever be achieved. We hope that this exposition of our side of the story will help Americans and Europeans to have a more balanced view and to think about the “myths” they want to associate themselves with.

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